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Meet Tony Gleeson

Jazz is about endless possibilities, like life, so it’s always something new, fresh and provocative. There’s always a reason to come back.
Tony Gleeson
Tell us a bit about yourself.
I'm an artist by vocation and a musician by avocation (I've played guitar all my life and picked up keyboards a couple of decades back). Music of all kinds has always been a major part of my life, but early on I made the choice to pursue the visual arts as my career. I spent my so-called formative years on the east coast, in upstate New York, Washington DC, and New York City. When I attended art school in Los Angeles, I fell in love with southern California and after a few years back in Manhattan, I persuaded my wife Annie to move there quite an adventurous step for her as she'd never been on the West Coast. We've been Angelenos since 1977. We have three grown kids pursuing their own lives and adventures, but the house is hardly empty or still with our two cats, Django and Mingus, and our bird Charlie.Annie's been an NICU RN and I've run an illustration and design studio ever since we got here. I figure I've had around a thousand illustrations published: magazines, newspapers, book covers, catalogues and product illustrations. I've also done concept art for film, TV, advertising, and toy and product design.
I was a bookseller for several years early in the new millennium. I'm also a writer, with ten crime novels published in Britain and the United States. The most recent, A Different Kind of Dead, was released in the U.S. by Wildside in 2021. The new one, Find the Money, also by Wildside, is due for release before this year's end. I'm kind of a polymath with a lot of interests (including film, baseball, classic mysteries, science fiction, and comic art) that tend to veer into obsessions.
I've always had a lot of musician friends and can relate to them at least as well as I do to my artist colleagues. In fact, I joke that I used to see myself as kind of a visual "session guy."
What's your earliest memory of music?
There were all kinds of 45s played on the old phonograph when I was a toddler in the early '50s. I recall those colored labels on records by Les Paul,
Stan Kenton
piano1911 - 1979

Spike Jones
composer / conductor1911 - 1965

Frankie Laine
vocals
Ella Mae Morse
vocals1924 - 1999

Dave Brubeck
piano1920 - 2012

Gerry Mulligan
saxophone, baritone1927 - 1996

Dizzy Gillespie
trumpet1917 - 1993

Anita O'Day
vocals1919 - 2006
Was there one album or experience that was your doorway to jazz?
I was about eleven when my brother brought home
Miles Davis
trumpet1926 - 1991
The real epiphany was when I moved to New York after art school in the early '70s. That's where I met Annie, the lovely lady who was to become my wife. She had a collection of jazz records including a number of artists I had heard of but was not familiar with:

John Coltrane
saxophone1926 - 1967

Keith Jarrett
pianob.1945

Charles Mingus
bass, acoustic1922 - 1979

Pharoah Sanders
saxophone, tenor1940 - 2022

Ahmad Jamal
piano1930 - 2023
As Annie and I got to know each other better, I also got to know her record collection better and started exploring and contributing to it with increasing gusto. There were decent radio stations in New York for me to hear new (to me) thingsI particularly remember DJ Les Davis on WRVR-FMand plenty of record stores for me to stop into on my way home from work. There's just something about jazz that gets you under its spell. And that's the journey I've been on ever since, finding new and interesting recordings, reading in detail about the history of the music and its people, and happily discovering kindred souls along the route.
How long have you been going out to hear live jazz?
The first live jazz I experienced was in the mid '70s, so we're talking close to a half a century. It would have been either Return to Forever at a midtown Manhattan venue (I forget which one but remember the acoustics were great), or one of Norman Granz's Pablo festivals with
Count Basie
piano1904 - 1984

Oscar Peterson
piano1925 - 2007

Ella Fitzgerald
vocals1917 - 1996

Joe Pass
guitar1929 - 1994

Sonny Fortune
saxophone, alto1939 - 2018
How often do you go out to hear jazz?
Unfortunately, in recent years, we haven't had the occasion to go to many clubs or concerts. The pandemic just made it even more problematic. A lot of the live jazz I've heard lately has been on a smaller scale with some of the terrific local artists that show up at sometimes impromptu jams. But that's a great thing about living in Los Angeles, which is crawling with great musicians; there are always new ones to discover and meet.What is it about live music that makes it so special for you?
I'd say the fact that anything can happen. Life's all about stuff that just happens when you're lucky enough to be there. You just might be present for something memorable. I can liken it to another of my loves, baseball. There is nothing like the sheer thrill of going to a major league game and seeing some of the most celebrated players in the world at the top of their game. But I've also been known to stop and watch softball games, high school games, even little leaguers, and it's the game itself that "jazzes" me. I get the same feeling when I catch friends and other local musicians playing at a coffee house or an outdoor concertor in Covid times just setting up out front of a home or school. As soon as the language starts to be spoken and that collective simpatico starts, this wonderful thing begins to happen.What are the elements of an amazing jazz concert?
That's a hard one to quantify. As soon as the language starts to be spoken and that collective simpatico starts, this wonderful thing begins to happen, where the players are in their zone individually and collectively and they pull the audience in with them. You might not be able to describe it or explain it but you definitely know when it's happening!One of my all-time favorite live performances was Charles Mingus' at the Bottom Line in Manhattan in January 1977. Somehow Mingus, hardly a small man, jammed himself, his bass, and his entire band (at least a sextet) onto a fairly small bandstand. It was around the time of Cumbia and Jazz Fusion; the band was with

Jack Walrath
trumpetb.1946

Ricky Ford
saxophone, tenorb.1954

Dannie Richmond
drums1935 - 1988
If you could go back in time and hear one of the jazz legends perform live, who would it be?

Eric Dolphy
woodwinds1928 - 1964

Cannonball Adderley
saxophone1928 - 1975

Bill Evans
piano1929 - 1980

Art Blakey
drums1919 - 1990


Wayne Shorter
saxophone1933 - 2023
Is there a club that's no longer around that you miss the most?
JAX, in Glendale. It was close to us and easily accessible, always had fine talent and a friendly atmosphere and, as a bonus, had really good BBQ ribs! I'm sad to say I never got to the legendary and relatively short-lived Blue Whale in downtown LA. My friend, the bassist Matt Cory, played there many times with various people. There was, I don't know, some kind of jinx on me every time I planned to go.Do you have a favorite jazz anecdote?
Yes, a nice illustration of how the love of this music connects us: I was meeting with an art director to discuss an illustration project I was being considered for. We were just talking over coffee, and it came up that I was a jazz fan. His eyes narrowed conspiratorially and he said, "So tell me someone you especially like. And don't give me one of the usual suspects like Miles or Duke." Without hesitation I said, "Wayne Shorter." He got a huge smile on his faceturns out he's an enormous fan of Wayne Shorter himselfand we instantly bonded. By the way, I did work with him on the project and we had a great time.How do you discover new artists?
Wow, that's become a lot more difficult in recent times. Sometimes I just take some time and surf the web looking for artists and music I'm not yet familiar with. Word of mouth is a big thing, friends who share similar sensibilities, who might say, "Hey, you need to check out so-and-so," whether in person or via recordings. We've really liked an annual summer jazz concert series sponsored by Descanso Gardens in nearby La Ca?ada (we're supporting members) that brings in really interesting and diverse artists, most of whom are local and new to us. It's a great way to be introduced to a lot of good people at once.Vinyl, CDs, MP3s, streaming?
In recent years I've been very much a CD guy. I can listen to them almost anywhere, including in my car and my studio. I can always find new things (which is something when you've got a big collection that you've built over decades) and they're not prohibitively expensive. And CD reissues tend to have a new level of comprehensive perspective, with bonus tracks from session outtakes, and liner notes and documentation from a greater historical perspective. For someone like me, who's deeply into the history of the music, CDs have a lot of advantages. And while there's good and bad sound quality to be found in every medium, I'm pretty firmly in the camp of those who like the sound of CDs.If you were a professional musician, which instrument would you play?
Well, I've played guitar for close to 60 years now and keyboards for a couple decades, but if I could have my fantasy fulfilled, I'd be a break-down-the-walls alto saxophonist navigating sweet, miraculous high-octane journeys of the kind I've gotten taken on by my favorites like
Phil Woods
saxophone, alto1931 - 2015

Charlie Parker
saxophone, alto1920 - 1955

Sonny Stitt
saxophone1924 - 1982

Arthur Blythe
saxophone, alto1940 - 2017

Jackie McLean
saxophone, alto1932 - 2006
What's your desert island disc?
I'd need a whole crate! Maybe a shipping container. Hopefully it's a big island! If I have to choose one, the most extra-special album in my psyche that would be like my comfort food has got to be
Oliver Nelson
saxophone1932 - 1975
What do you think keeps jazz alive and thriving?
It's clear that not everybody likes or "gets" jazz, but I've found that those who do tend to become lovers and enthusiasts. Maybe one reason is that it's endlessly surprising and involving. You're never just going to hear a predictable verse and chorus. Jazz is about endless possibilities, like life, so it's always something new, fresh and provocative. There's always a reason to come back.Finish this sentence: Life without music would be...
...missing half the colors of the spectrumIs there anything else we should know about you?
Maybe that you shouldn't ask me questions like that, because you'll always be in for a much, much longer conversation!Tags
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