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Ron McClure: Lookout Farms and New Moons
By
Charles Lloyd
saxophoneb.1938

Dave Liebman
saxophoneb.1946

Richie Beirach
pianob.1947

Jeff Williams
drums
All About Jazz: How did you get started in music?
Ron McClure: I grew up in New Haven, Connecticut and played music from the time I was five years old. I played accordion, a little piano and bass. A teacher from high school basically talked me into following my dream and going into music as a career. I don't push my students now but I do tell them to think about their lives when they're 40 and what it would be like then to have not done what you wanted to do. I went to the Hartt School in Hartford, Connecticut. My private teacher Eddie Miller had been teaching me about jazz harmony. I remember that the school did not really encourage jazzonce, when I was playing in a room with Houston Person, who was also a student there, we were reported for playing that "evil body music." But I had been listening to jazz since I was a kid and that's what I wanted to play. I was a bass major at Hartt and while I was still there I met musicians who came to Hartford to playpeople like [vibraphonist] Mike Mainieri
vibraphone
b.1938Maynard Ferguson
trumpet
1928 - 2006
AAJ: Tell me a little about your time with Ferguson.
RM: There were good arrangements by people like Willie Maiden and Chuck Mangione
flugelhorn
1940 - 2025Wynton Kelly
piano
1931 - 1971Wes Montgomery
guitar
1923 - 1968
AAJ: That was the Smokin' at the Half Note (Verve, 1965) group with Paul Chambers
bass, acoustic
1935 - 1969Jimmy Cobb
drums
1929 - 2020
RM: Yeah, Maynard opened for them at a club in Atlantic City. When it came time for them to play one night they couldn't find Paul. He was not so well thenin fact it was shortly before he died. I'd met Paul before and all he could say to me then was "You're the cat, man." Anyway, the music that Wynton and Wes did was joyous and truly timeless. Talk about a time feel and a groove! Jimmy did a couple rim shots and signaled for me to come up. I knew the tunes pretty much and when I started to play, Wes just looked around at me and beamed, grinned from ear to ear. So I did the set and then about a month later, the same two groups were paired at a club in New York. Ron Carter
bass
b.1937
AAJ: Isn't there a story about playing with the
Miles Davis
trumpet
1926 - 1991
RM: Herbie Hancock
piano
b.1940Tony Williams
drums
1945 - 1997Keith Jarrett
piano
b.1945Jack DeJohnette
drums
b.1942Wayne Shorter
saxophone
1933 - 2023Joe Henderson
saxophone
1937 - 2001
AAJ: Tell me about San Francisco, The Fourth Way and Joe Henderson.
Quest, from left: Ron McClure, Dave Liebman, Billy Hart, Richie Beirach
RM: In 1970, I was living in San Francisco and playing with the Fourth Way. It was one of those '70s jazz/rock/alternative bands with Michael White
b.1954Mike Nock
piano
b.1940Eddie Marshall
drums
b.1938Bobby Hutcherson
vibraphone
1941 - 2016
AAJ: Would you agree then that you're comfortable playing a wide variety of things?
RM: I take the music seriously. I played electric bass with Blood, Sweat and TearsI got a Grammy nomination for a tune from the album New Cityand later I played, with Herbie Hancock, on a Pointer Sisters album.
AAJ: What about the Charles Lloyd experience?
RM: Steve Kuhn
piano
b.1938
AAJ: And the group playing at Birdland?
RM: It's the 35th anniversary of the group that [saxophonist] Dave Liebman and [pianist] Richie Beirach startedLookout Farm. Frank Tusa
bass, acoustic
b.1947Jeff Williams
drumsEddie Gomez
bass
b.1944George Mraz
bass
1944 - 2021
AAJ: Who are the musiciansbassists and otherswho've most influenced you?
RM: I'd say Herbie Hancock would have to be at the top of the list. He can play any style and he's played with everybody. He's been part of so many of the great recordings. Then, of course, there's Bill Evans and Miles and Wayne Shorter. I learned more about music from Richie Beirach than from anyone else. He's so knowledgeable and generous with his knowledge. When you play with people like Richie or Jack DeJohnette, they're in your blood. They make you play in the here and now. For bassists, it's Paul Chambers, Wilbur Ware
bass, acoustic
1923 - 1979Albert Stinson
bass, acoustic
1944 - 1969Steve Swallow
bass
b.1940Jaco Pastorius
bass, electric
1951 - 1987Charles Mingus
bass, acoustic
1922 - 1979
AAJ: And your latest recording for Steeplechase?
RM: It's called New Moon (SteepleChase, 2009) and has Rich Perry
saxophone, tenorGeorge Colligan
multi-instrumentalist
b.1969Billy Drummond
drums
b.1959
Selected Discography:
Ron McClure, New Moon (SteepleChase, 2009)
Ron McClure Sextet, Double Triangle (Naxos Jazz, 1999)
Ron McClure, Tonite Only (SteepleChase, 1991)
Quest, Midpoint: Live at Montmartre (Quest III) (Storyville, 1987)
The Fourth Way, The Sun and the Moon Have Come Together (Harvest, 1969)
Charles Lloyd, Soundtrack (Atlantic-Rhino, 1968)
Photo Credits
Page 1: Courtesy of The Bird's Eye Jazz Club
Page 2: Courtesy of Dave Liebman
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