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Magnus Ostrom: Late Night Playing, Humble Playing

Conflict on the bandstand can bring an energy to the music, but it can also be very destructive in the long run. I have real trouble playing with people I don't get along with.
Esbjorn Svensson
piano1964 - 2008
After Svensson's death in a diving accident in June 2008 both ?str?m and bassist

Dan Berglund
bassb.1963

Pat Metheny
guitarb.1954
Thread Of Life is ?str?m's first album as leader. A few weeks prior to its release ?str?m spoke from his home in Sweden of his hopes for the future, his renewed love for playing and his perspective on music. ?str?m is a friendly and engaging conversationalist, quietly spoken and thoughtful but with an easy sense of humor. He describes the making of his own album as..." a distant goal. I knew that I had the chance to make an album, but I didn't really know where or when." The opportunity arose in far from desirable circumstances but ?str?m seems to be glad that he has taken the chance.
Immediately after Svensson's death, ?str?m stopped playing music altogether: "I didn't touch my drums, for maybe half a year. But around Christmas or New Year I sat at my piano and started to play a little bit, just to get in touch with music again." This was the start of ?str?m's re-engagement with his chosen art form. it was a process which was full of "ups and downs," as he describes it, but was there a time when he thought that he would never return to playing? "Yeh, absolutely. I thought that maybe I'd done it, achieved what I could, because we reached so far in the Trio that I couldn't really find meaning in going back. Then somehow I did."
When ?str?m recommenced playing this was initially very low-key and centered on the piano: "I was just playing at home, just piano, not drums. Then it happened that

Lars Danielsson
bassb.1958

Mathias Eick
trumpetb.1979

John Parricelli
guitar, electricSoon after ?str?m made his return to live performance Swedish vocalist Jeanette Lindstr?m asked him to get involved in her new album, Attitude And Orbit Control (Diesel Music, 2009). ?str?m both played on and co-produced the album: "It was important for me to get back in the studio, to have fun with the music again."
Chapter Index
Thread Of Life
For ?str?m these were important projects, but he was careful to avoid too much work, too much exposure: "I've really done very few things, I was very selective, you could say. Then I decided that the time was right to do this album."
One of the first things to notice about Thread Of Life is ?str?m's choice of song titles. Some of them, such as "Longing," "Weight of Death" and "Hymn for the Past" seem to have emerged very directly from the drummer's experience. However, as ?str?m tells it this was not his conscious intention: "Somehow, who can say. It was only when I put all the titles together in a list that I realized how dark it looked. Darker than I thought, actually."
In fact, the titles on Thread Of Life are not all dark. While much of the music is sad there are also upbeat tunes. "Piano Break Song," for example, is a groove-laden, danceable, number: "Yeh, absolutely" agrees ?str?m. Across the album as a whole, the music is far from reflecting the darkness of some of the titles. ?str?m emphasizes that fact, stressing the album's optimism: "Some of the music is dark, but some of it isn't: there's hope and fun there as well. It's not only darkness."
"Piano Break Song" is probably the album's most immediate tune as well as the most upbeat. ?str?m makes an interesting point about the interpretations that are already being put upon the title: " 'Piano Break Song' was a working title, based on the way the piano gets played on the tune. But some people could look at it and see some connection with Esbj?rn's deathyou can interpret it in different ways."

"I didn't intend for the design to look like this from the beginning. Per tried working in the studio, and outdoors, taking photos until finally we came up with the idea. I like itand of course, I have to stand up for it too. The music on the album is very much mine, it's from the inside of me, it's very emotional. It shows a lot of my own soul. So why not show my skin as well. So that's the relation between the photos and the music. There's another connection for me as well: this is my work, like being in a factory in a way."
Once again, there are other interpretations that could, and probably will be, applied to the photographs. ?str?m tells of two such viewpoints: "Someone told me that the photos reflect my coming out of the dark, back into the world of music. And someone else told me that it looks like the old connection between jazz and boxing

Miles Davis
trumpet1926 - 1991
The discussion about the cover design brings the subject of the nature of the music back again, and in particular the sadder, more emotive, tunes on the album. A key tune is "Longing," definitely an intense and sad tune, but also one that seems filled with a sense of optimism. ?str?m agrees; "Yes, I think so too. It is double-sided. There is sadness but it also has hope."
A Rock Band Playing Jazz?
The other musicians on Thread Of Life are all part of the Stockholm jazz scene, but remain relatively unknown outside Sweden. ?str?m was also unfamiliar with these players at first: "We had been touring for years, and I wasn't really connected to what was happening in Sweden. Then finally I began to meet some of the new guys on the scene, partly through working on Jeanette Lindstr?m's album. In fact, two of the guys from Thread Of Life; Andreas Hourdakis, the guitarist, and Thobias Gabrielson, the bassist; are on that album. They were great people and I knew that as I got this album together I would ask them to join me. They both wanted to, which was great, so we tried things out and it worked really, really well."

The fourth member of ?str?m's line-up is keyboard player Gustaf Karl?f, who ?str?m first heard of from members of the Stockholm scene. "Gustaf's was a name that I heard being mentioned by other people. Then I think Thobias told me about himI think that they had played together in Thobias' band. So I checked him out and found out about the variety of things he has done, from jazz to really strange electronica stuff, to pop. I like that openness to things: I really like people to be open-minded. So I called him up and he was also really happy to try out. We had a terrific couple of jams during the summer to check out our sound, our musical language, and it fell into place really quickly. Somehow we got a band sound really soon. I'm really happy about itthey're great guys and fantastic musicians."
It's notable that ?str?m refers to people's personal qualities as often as he does to their musical abilities: a good personal relationship with his fellow musicians is clearly of great importance to him. "This is very important to me: I have real trouble playing with people I don't get along with. I need to feel that there is a nice, friendly, atmosphere. It's even more important to me than how people play. Of course, there has to be a certain level of ability, but personal qualities are important to the music. Conflict on the bandstand can bring an energy to the music, but it can also be very destructive in the long run. Of course, after you play together you can all go and stay in different hotels, and that can work as well, but it's better to start off by having fun together even if it doesn't work out in the long run."
?str?m had most of the music for Thread Of Life written before he formed the band, working on composition alone. "I write on piano: I am absolutely not a pianist but I compose with it. Then I work on the music in my own small studio: I record the piano part then I go to the drums and play a drum part, then listen to how that sounds." ?str?m's working pattern reflects the approach used in e.s.t., as he explains: "Esbj?rn would bring the tune, then usually he would play it through then he and Dan would play it together then I would sit down and listen to it maybe two or three times and work out what I would do with it. So this was the same processexcept that I was alone."
?str?m went on to make demos for the band members, giving them a structure but not a finished product: "It's very important to me that the other guys can give their own voices to the music so they are part of the thing. I don't want them simply to repeat what I tell them... Of course, I also write a few things down: the melody lines, the chords. Then we work from there." Some of the album's extended pieces also sound as if there are improvised passages. To what extent is this improvisation happening? "On the longer, atmospheric, pieces there is quite a lot of improvisation, but it's still on the chords of the song, on the basic structure."
Recordings have their physical limits, CDs can only contain so much music, so there does have to be some control over this creative process. ?str?m is happy to take on that side of the producer's role: "The album is quite produced, what can I say? There is also a limit time wise. The record is very, very long (it comes in at around 75 minutes): I did take away some stuff. I took out one song, the album was still very long, but I thought 'Ah, what the heck.'"


Tony Williams
drums1945 - 1997
The press release for Thread Of Life describes the album as "a rock band playing jazz:" does ?str?m agree? "In a way you can say that, but it's always hard to put a label on what is what. When I was younger I listened to a lot of rock: my older brother would play lots of

Jimi Hendrix
guitar, electric1942 - 1970
Even if labels are important, there is so much variety on Thread Of Life that a single label is very hard to apply. "Piano Break Music" has distinct dance and techno roots, Hourdakis' guitar solos have a progressive rock style to them. Then there is what may become the most talked-about track on the album, a tune that has a strong Americana feel: "Ballad For E."
Ballad For E
This tune is the album's clearest link to Svensson, not just in its title, but also in the line-up of performers. ?str?m's new band take time out, for this tune is performed by ?str?m, Berglund and Metheny. It's a beautiful tune, beautifully performed"Late night playing, humble playing" as ?str?m puts it. "It was the first thing I wrote; at the end of 2008" explains the drummer. "It came to me really easily and clearly, and I felt immediately that this was a song for Esbj?rn. Once that was clear I felt that I wanted to bring Dan, and also our sound engineer ?ke Linton, to work on it. I really wanted us to be together on this. Very soon my thoughts went to Pat, but I knew that he rarely guests on stuff so I hesitated for a long while before I actually asked him. But I had to ask him, otherwise I would have regretted it."

Metheny happily agreed, which clearly pleased ?str?m: "I was so happy that it all worked out." The recording took place in New York, with ?str?m, Berglund and Linton all crossing the Atlantic for that one track. "It was probably a bit crazy, but what can I say?" says ?str?m, laughing. "I needed to do it, and it was a little bit of a once in a lifetime thing. Pat was very busy, but we found time in the first week of December 2010 so we put it all together."
"Ballad For E" became a real collaboration, as ?str?m acknowledges with pride: "When we met at the studio Pat showed me his arrangement of the song, so the recording is Pat's arrangement. He put a lot of effort and heart into it and I was more or less speechless. It wasn't just another session for him, he really wanted to honor the Trio and Esbj?rn."
With the first album ready for release and a new band which is clearly giving him great pleasure, has ?str?m started to plan further projects? Not yet, as he explains: "Just now I am very much in this moment. Of course I have a lot of ideas but I am really looking forward to playing live with this band, to seeing where it leads. I'm looking forward to making another record with these guys but you never know: the whole business of making records might be at an end, so I'm happy that I at least got to make one with this band."
A few days before this interview ?str?m played live with pianist

Eliane Elias
piano and vocalsb.1960

Marc Johnson
bassb.1953
Selected Discography
Magnus ?str?m, Thread Of Life (ACT, 2011)
Jeanette Lindstr?m, Attitude And Orbit Control (Diesel Music, 2009)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Retrospective: The Very Best Of e.s.t. (ACT, 2009)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Leucocyte (ACT, 2008)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Live In Hamburg (ACT, 2007)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Tuesday Wonderland (ACT, 2006)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Viaticum (ACT, 2005)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Seven Days Of Falling (ACT, 2003)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Strange Place For Snow (ACT, 2002)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Good Morning Susie Soho (ACT, 2000)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, From Gagarin's Point of View (ACT, 1999)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Winter in Venice (ACT, 1997)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, Plays Monk (ACT, 1997)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, e.s.t. Live '95 (ACT, 1995)
Esbj?rn Svensson Trio, When Everyone Has Gone (Dragon, 1993)
Photo Credits
All Photos: Per Kristiansen
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